Right – “I was an immigration judge and he was an interpreter in the immigration court.”
“So if someone comes here ‘illegally’ how do you decide if they get to stay?”
Right – “If they say they’re afraid to go back we listen to their explanation about what makes them afraid. The law doesn’t cover everything that happens in other countries. People wanna stay so I have to decide if they’re telling the truth.”
“So you know people pretty well huh?”
Right – “Oh you never know people.”

Right – “There’s very little objective evidence so it really comes down to judging what you’re told. Either you trust them or you don’t trust them. It’s complicated. Some days are better that others.”