“Do you feel like doing that 14 years rehabilitated you?”
“Not at all. I learned some skills, I learned how to meditate. Learned how to fight fires. That was really uplifting for me.”
“How were you able to make it through?”
“They tried to make me a Kumi 415 guy but I told ‘em I was for Christ. I stayed in church, I prayed a lot and I meditated.”